Hoppus mostly remained mum on the subject until (+44)'s debut album "When Your Heart Stops Beating" was released. He let the songs "No, It Isn't" and "Lycanthrope" do the talking for him. (For those keeping track, a lycanthrope is a bloodthirsty werewolf or spirit.) "It was actually good, because" [those songs] were about the end of Blink-182," Hoppus said. "I needed to get it out there because I didn't really talk about it in the press. I really didn't talk about it with anybody. When it came time to put it into a song, it went right into music. It was a good cathartic thing to do. That's for sure," Hoppus said.LYCANTHROPEI wake up at the end of a long, dark, lonely yearIt's bringing out the worst in meI hear your voice start breaking in fearWhen the lights go downAnd I still feel you looking over my shoulderYour sinking guilt and approaching nightmareAnd I know none of us will surviveBecause I know everythingAlrightAnd my dear I need you to move a little fasterThis second counts as the rest of your lifeYour final word and an itchy fingerAnd then it's taken awayAnd we'll be beaten down without mercy or meaningI turn my face to a careless skylineI'm searching hard for a sign from heavenBut they've forgotten me hereYou can just stop talking, I get itI hear your silence loud and clearI know it's barely a thought but it'll see us throughI'm only setting you free so just let it happenJust let it happen, no need to fearYeah you can just stop talking, I get itSex, f*ck, and fluorescent lightingA hollow point on an angry bulletWe're on the teeth of a crocodileWe're in the mouth of the gunAnd sometimes at night I feel I'm just a broken vesselAn instrument with a darker purposeI'm at the throat of the young and the helplessBecause they've got nothing to say... to quote Tom; What dude? WHAT?The whole song is... oajshhse, but those bold lines. I can't really figure out something good to say hereoh and also, I understand why Mark wouldn't want to talk about THAT in the press... I bet that's what he means, he just speak a little bit in codes, can't give it all away without people lurking right? I mean the +44 fans know that the song is... very suggestive, but the media doesn't, right? Okay, I don't know what I want to say so I'll just... go back to trying to shut my mouth.
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goodness. i love you for pointing this out. finally! i've always thought plus44 had some very slashy material. *maybe some other songs even more so than this song, but there is definitely that direct qoute where he says this is about blink, ........hm
Yeah, I've had my suspicions on No It Isn't since the first time I heard it, and now that he's said it it's just... YES! if you know what I mean.
And it's not just Lycanthrope or No, it Isn't that's suggestive. Of course, I've got a bit of a wild mind. But yeah, the media just takes it as 'oh, it's their friendship breaking up, they've been around each other too long,' etc. Or they say that the lyrics come off like it's about Blink, but 'we're reading into it'. Whatever.Something that I absolutely love about a good portion of +44's songs it that you can take what you want from them. You can either make up a meaning, say most of them are about their friendship, or be like us and think they're about MarkandTom becoming just Mark. And when you put that quote next to the lyrics, it does come off a little bit.. slashy.
Excatly! I don't understand why they have to be so very, very narrow-minded. Because GOD FORBIDD can it have been something more than a very deep friendship! *sigh*Yeah, it's the same thing with Angel and Airwaves. Got the same feeling when Tom said that Start The Machines is about Blinks' breakup... And a lot of songs on that album could be about them. At least some parts of it. And I mean, I think it's pretty logical that a lot of their songs (both +44 and AVA) is about them and Blink because it must be such a huge thing in their lives. From being so close for... god knows how many years and then just... nothing. Must wake very big emotions (duh) .-.
yuppp. It seems obvious that quite a few songs on the album are about Mark and Tom. I always thought "Baby, Come on" was a dead-ringer for being about Tom, especially with the references to alcohol abuse, and depression. This is what Mark said about it in an interview ( http://punk76.com/html/interviews.html look under Plus 44)"And then "Baby Come On" is a song about a Girl. It´s about a girl who is kind of loosing her mind and loosing her place in the world and trying to save her."and also"Oliver: What are the lyrics about on this record? Mark: About everything that has happened in the past two years. The good and the bad."I seriously laughed when I read that the first time. Who does he think he's kidding? So this "girl" is loosing her mind and Tom "lost his brain" all in the past 2 years? What a coincidence.
So this "girl" is loosing her mind and Tom "lost his brain" all in the past 2 years? What a coincidence.You know what? I never noticed that! Baby, Come On was actually one of the songs I couldn't find an association to M/T with, but now I want to listen to it again and see if there's something there.
'I hear your voice start breaking in fearWhen the lights go downAnd I still feel you looking over my shoulderYour sinking guilt and approaching nightmareAnd I know none of us will surviveBecause I know everything'Sounds like Tom will out of random, creep up right behind him and rape surprise him with his presense. And Mark knows both their new bands won't be as big as blink. Not nearly as big as blink.'And my dear I need you to move a little fasterThis second counts as the rest of your lifeYour final word and an itchy fingerAnd then it's taken away'Sounds like Mark was having some kind of fantasy about Tom. 0_o'You can just stop talking, I get itI hear your silence loud and clearI know it's barely a thought but it'll see us throughI'm only setting you free so just let it happenJust let it happen, no need to fearYeah you can just stop talking, I get it'Tom stopped talking to Mark 2 years ago, after the break. But the whole time after, Tom's been talking to everyone about the break up. mark gets Tom's side of the story and that's why Tom won't talk to him (makes sense?) Now that Tom's on his own now, Mark accepts that and is telling him to do his own thing with Ava since that's what he wanted.(ionno, I interpreted that so whatever)
I'm with you to 120 % procent on this! I think a lot of both +44 and Ava's songs are worth a second interprenting *nods*It's just so obvious. Why would he write a song like this that reflects Blink/Tom/that whole situiation so nice and then pretend that it's just something that popped up in his brain and then wrote a song about it. Because come on, those two records (Ava and +44) has GOT to be about the whole split thing. A lot of it anyways. Because that's not something you just get over that fast. I know sure as hell that I wouldn't anyways.